Junior ROTC program met with full BOE support
by Karissa Stewart
Dec 18, 2009 | 1656 views | 19 19 comments | 6 6 recommendations | email to a friend | print
High school students aren’t always certain that a career in the military is right for them, and many face the decision without much thought or consideration.

But, a new class that will be implemented in 2010 will give high school students the option of training as military cadets at school and could lead to a career choice in the future.

The county school board approved the Junior ROTC program for Sonoraville High School at the monthly board of education meeting that was held inside of the Ashworth Middle School lunchroom Dec. 14.

Gordon County Schools Superintendent Bill McCown explained to board members that the Army Junior ROTC program would include the cost of uniforms, but it wouldn’t cover the cost of hiring two teachers for the class, a commissioned and a noncommissioned officer, at Sonoraville High School.

McCown estimated the cost of one teacher would be around $85,000.

After a brief discussion, the board members unanimously approved the Junior ROTC program.

“Two years ago we applied for the program at Gordon Central and Sonoraville, and only one was approved,” McCown said, in an interview. “We don’t know why they chose one over the other.”

The board will explore options for the GCHS students.

The Junior ROTC program will begin in January 2010.

The board also approved the removal of several sentences and words in its policy for the length of the school year and the administrative procedures to be followed by the personnel department in the employment of certified employees.

“We eliminated verbage,” McCown stated.

In other news, the school board approved a 2010 school year calendar .

They opted against another option in which the board meetings would be held at several different locations, as they were during the 2009 school year.

The calendar the board chose specified the central office as a permanent meeting location, with the exception of called board meetings and a meeting in the spring that includes an awards ceremony for students.

“Meeting at the central office cuts costs,” said board member William Tyner.

He added that one location would also help with organization.

“Sometimes we had questions and we couldn’t answer them because they’d (the necessary materials) be at the central office,” Tyner said.

The next county board of education meeting will be held at the Central office on Jan. 11 at 7 p.m.
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CommonSenseAgitator
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December 24, 2009
Yeah most people are hypocrits, like claiming to be christian when their ideals and values are anything but. The GOP doesnt have a monopoly on that but it does have a majority
waterworld
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December 24, 2009
...Mr.Agitator, where do you draw the line on brainwashing? Do we not attempt to do it in our homes everyday with our children,some call it "parenting" and with our beloved step-children as well. Do we not constantly perform brainwashing our young minds in the church? Yes we do, for good reason. Do we not attempt to brainwash our spouses that we really do like to shop? Oppps, bad example.

Oh well, in general, we get "brainwashed" everytime we turn on the TV, by uselessness. If SHS is "willing" to step up and provide the kids with an alternate subject that is widely respected and "useful", then I have to support the cause.

Who knows, it may just have the right influence on someone's child...that same child that maybe lives with a dud of a parent who does nothing but blab about something they know nothing of...you know the kind, the hypocritical ones, we all know one, but hate being one...

Merry Christmas
mirage83
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December 23, 2009
Hmmm, what say we take a closer look at the claim that JROTC perpares young people to fight a war?

Does JROTC involve training in armed combat? No.

Does ROTC teach unarmed combat? No.

Does it teach small unit combat tactics? No.

Does it teach maintenance and field repair of military weaponry? No.

Does it teach the use of combat weapons? No.

Does it involve SERE training? No.

Does it involve classes in handling the stress of combat operations? No.

Does it teach the use improvised munitions? No.

So, since you evidently can't specifically tell us what part of JROTC involves brainwashing, perhaps you can tell us what specific part of JROTC prepares young people to fight a war?

As for politics, don't know and don't care what either Republicans or Democrats say on the subject. I'm an independent.
CommonSenseAgitator
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December 23, 2009
Any time you start preparing young people to fight a war before they are really competent its brainwashing, or at least that's what the right says about the young people in other countries who fight on the side of wars we don't support. It can't be both now can it?
daltondawg
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December 23, 2009
The $85,000 is not just the teacher's salary. That figure includes benefits and other various costs that are incurred by employing someone. Your employee has the same charges when employing you.
RobertELee
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December 22, 2009
If you work a 40 hr week, 50 weeks a year. (Teachers?) thats 2000 hrs. 85k/2k hrs = $42.50/hr for something that is not a requirement. It may be worthwile, I just don't want to pay for it at that rate, with property taxes. If the Feds want to fund it, fine. The state with its great leaders have already failed in their constitution requirement to educate the kids (the city or county are not constitutionally required to pay extra for teachers, they just do because they CAN and want better salaries, to avoid private school being the only way to get a "good" education). Somewhere something has got to give with these property taxes - who wants to be retired and paying $300/month of your SS check or savings to the city or county? Its headed that way by the runaway spending at the local level. You make up your own mind, after all that's why the good lord gave you one.
johnnyscalhoun
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December 22, 2009
Not at the expense of tax payers, and not right now. Not when the system had to take out a loan to cover expenses.
mirage83
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December 22, 2009
So I presume you don't believe this is a worthwhile investment in SHS and it's students education?

RobertELee
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December 22, 2009
If it wasn't for school taxes, I wouldn't care what teachers,administrators and school staff got paid. I'd give em' all 85k a year, if they were good or not. Same goes for firemen, cops and utility workers. Why we are at it, lets raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, so many more people could be happy. It a great day to live here in wonderland.
mirage83
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December 21, 2009
Part of the JROTC instructors/teachers pay is covered by their military retirement, the other part is covered by the school system. It's a very worthwhile investment in our kids in spite of the cost as far as I'm concerned.
RobertELee
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December 21, 2009
1 teacher @ 85K, so there you are.
mirage83
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December 21, 2009
So in other words, no, you yourself have no personal experience participating in a JROTC program. All you have are conclusions based on observations of individuals who were in JROTC and whose questionable attitudes or behavior you've chosen to blame on a program you know little or nothing about having never been in it yourself.

Perhaps you can explain specifically what part of a JROTC program involves brainwashing?
CommonSenseAgitator
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December 21, 2009
My stepchildren were in jrotc. Is that good enough for you. If your going to brainwash children I guess you should get them as young as possible though huh?
mirage83
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December 20, 2009
For CommonSenseAgitator...

Do you have any personal experience in a JROTC program? The reason I ask is that drawing conclusions from the most extreme elements of any organization without personal knowledge of or experience in that organization is a poor basis for such broad-based conclusions.

JROTC does not produce robots. Kids with various social or other problems (you know, HS students) may be enrolled in it, but what is actually taught in JROTC is the importance of discipline, how to work as a team to accomplish goals, self-respect and respect for others, drill and ceremonies, history, and a varied assortment of other subjects and disciplines. But they aren't brainwashed, and they aren't turned into automatons.

Regarding the rest of your post, it has little or nothing to do either with JROTC or our military, so I'll leave it alone for now.
CommonSenseAgitator
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December 20, 2009
I've known kids that were in JROTC in other schools, they are very close to robots. We have people in the military who kill without a second thought but then have regrets, but then there are those who kill just to kill with no more feeling than squashing a bug. There has to be a balance, a moral guide. Americans like to think we are above using the tatics other cultures use but you're fooling yourself. If we were invaded by another country, one we couldn't defeat in any other way, we would be the suicide bombers if you believe otherwise you really are kidding yourself.
mirage83
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December 19, 2009
Addressing Certainly's comment:



Is that what you think about our regular, National Guard and Reserve component members of the Armed Forces? That they're unthinking, unfeeling robots without any moral or ethical compass, rather than simply being ordinary citizens who have volunteered to do something extraordinary and serve and protect their country?

JROTC merely gives HS students (who at that age are about to have to take on the responsibilities of adults anyway) a valuable opportunity to explore some of the basic aspects of military service without any actual committment to or service in our armed forces. As with military service itself it's voluntary, not compulsory, and students are free to choose not to participate in the program if they don't want to.

waterworld
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December 19, 2009
I'm for it! This program will give these kids another option, an option with a future...and tons of support! Not to mention, if these kids decide to make a career of it, they will be exposed to thousands of positive, useful skill sets that can be applied to any civilian job any where in the world...
Certainly
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December 19, 2009
Ah, yes. Nothing like starting them out early and getting them in the right frame of mind - Get them to obey without question, dismiss any free thought as unpatriotic and might always makes right.
rebraider
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December 18, 2009
JROTC is an excellent program for any school. Thank God political correctness has no place in Gordon County Schools in this matter.
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